The Oregonian: Warming could fry salmon

Warming could fry salmon

The region's signature fish can't survive in warm waters; they're already feeling the heat.

By Michael Milstein, The Oregonian (January 6, 2008)

Salmon survived massive dams and fishing fleets, but now they're feeling the heat of global warming -- and it's likely to hammer them as hard as anything they've faced.

Although the government has spent billions to save salmon, warming will probably force even more extreme measures in coming years at the expense of water and power for people.

Biologists who have spent their careers watching over the fish said temperatures expected to rise an average of 0.2 to 1 degree per decade over the next century will probably wipe out some fragile runs of salmon. Snow will fall as rain instead, feeding floods that flush away their eggs. Heat waves will multiply, leaving less refuge to which they can retreat.

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Posted Mon, 01/07/2008 - 1:39pm.

but now they're feeling the

Submitted by jim karlock on Tue, 01/08/2008 - 3:55am.

but now they're feeling the heat of global warming -
JK:Huhh? The world has been cooling since 1998, the year tied with 1934 as the warmest since the little ice age, using the best available data, maintained by one of Al Gore's advisors at NASA, the poor persecuted Jim Hansen. (He was shamed into removing errors in the data that falsely showed 1998 to be the warmest ever. Coming corrections will show that 1998 was not even close to the 1930s.)

Where have you been? Oh, sorry, I bet you have been still listening to a second rate Baptist minister and failed presidential candidate who is making millions of dollars hyping the global warming fallacy.

Thanks
JK

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I'd rather listen to a

Submitted by GLV on Fri, 01/11/2008 - 12:59pm.

I'd rather listen to a former Vice President than someone who has nothing better to do then cut and paste the same 4 comments, over and over and over and over again, on other people's blogs.

Tha-anks
GLV (who hides his real name)

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A comment about JK

Submitted by matthew hickey on Tue, 01/08/2008 - 5:57am.

What a wacko.
A very well-funded wacko.

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Got anything besides an ad

Submitted by jim karlock on Tue, 01/08/2008 - 9:55pm.

Got anything besides an ad hominem?
(Rule: If you can't attack the message, attack the messenger.)

Some links: icecap.us junkscience.com co2science.org climateaudit.org surfacestations.org scienceandpublicpolicy.org climate-skeptic.com

Thanks
JK

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Perhaps the biggest

Submitted by Lenny Anderson on Wed, 01/23/2008 - 11:21am.

Perhaps the biggest opportunity to address global warming in this region is the Columbia River Crossing.
I hope Sam will look for a solution there that actually reduces vehicle trips and does not bring thousands more motor vehicles into Portland.
Instituting variable priced tolling on I-5 and I-205 now will reduce congestion, generate income for whatever gets built and make a strong statement to the world about how this region will address global warming. How about it Sam?

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Lenny Anderson: Perhaps

Submitted by jim karlock on Thu, 01/24/2008 - 3:05am.

Lenny Anderson: Perhaps the biggest opportunity to address global warming in this region is the Columbia River Crossing.
JK: What warming?? I guess that you haven’t been paying attention to the best climate data that is available (and just happens to be maintained by Al Gore advisor, Jim Hansem) at the USHCN at NASA which shows that we have been cooling since 1998, tied with 1934, as the warmest year since the little ice age, 400 years ago. If you really care to look at facts instead of Sierra Club talking points take a look at : data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/US_USHCN.2005vs1999.txt

After you understand that data, you can discount some of the recent warming because of warming biases in most of the measuring stations because of their inappropriate placement. After the warmers admit to that little inconvenient truth” they then need to further downward adjust recent “warming” due to temperature sensor problems. When they finally admit to their errors, we will have little, if any, warming since the 1930s. We may even turnout to be cooler. If you don’t know abot these problems you are simply not sufficiently informed to comment on this subject.

Lenny Anderson: I hope Sam will look for a solution there that actually reduces vehicle trips and does not bring thousands more motor vehicles into Portland. Instituting variable priced tolling on I-5 and I-205 now will reduce congestion, generate income for whatever gets built and
JK:and screw the low income as you increase their cost of living and force their families to choose between getting to work aqnd feeding their families. But you never cared about people’s income when you helped put thousands of Oregonians out of work over phony logging issues.

Lenny Anderson: make a strong statement to the world about how this region will address global warming. How about it Sam?
JK: I am simply amazed by the comments made by activists than never bother to check their facts before they open their mouths. Why don’t you take a look at the web sites I posted above then read the peer reviewed journal references on those sites. Get back to use after you read and understand them.

For lurkers:
1. There are recent papers that claim things other than CO2 are causing warming. This DISPROVES the “all scientists agree” crap.
2. The NAS showed that the “hockey stick” was wrong. This disproves one of the warmer’s key points. (It was probably an intentional fraud.)
3. As I mentioned above the world quit warming in 1998 (tied with 1934 for the warmest year since the little ice age).
4. The Antarctic ice cores show that CO2 FOLLOWS temperature, not leads it. Therefore CO2 does not initiate global warming. Even Al Gore appears to recognize this in his fictional “documentary” when he shows the graphs of temperature and CO2, but only refers to a relationship instead of a cause and effect - he knew that CO2 FOLLOWS temperature and intentionally hid that fact - he lied.
5. The most effective warming gas is water vapor, not CO2, by a wide margin.

If you don’t understand all of the above 5 points, you have no business claiming that global warming is man caused and therefore man curable.

JK: How about it Sam, how many people do you want to put out of work following idiots that advocate catastrophic (as opposed to moderate) global warming.

Thanks
JK

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Gasoline is still cheaper than bottled water.

Submitted by Mister Tee on Sat, 02/02/2008 - 6:58am.

Good thinking: the same strategy was used to narrow the field of Sellwood Bridge replacements.

Let's build a new bus lane, two new bike lanes, and a wide sidewalk on both sides. But don't increase the vehicular lanes, because that might make driving more convenient.

We need to force those flat-earthers to sit in a traffic for an hour or two if we are going to sell them on public transit.

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