MARK YOUR CALENDARS. Next Round of Neighborhood Transportation Meetings
Please note the date of the next town hall closest to you and mark your calendar. Of course, if for some reason you cannot attend the open house nearest to you, you are always welcome to attend a meeting outside of your neighborhood, as well. ALL OF THE MEETINGS ARE 7pm- 9pm Central Northeast Southwest West/Northwest East Portland Southeast Northeast Portland North Portland For special accommodations, please contact Jamie Waltz at (503) 823-7101. Posted Wed, 08/22/2007 - 1:28pm.
FallSubmitted by Roland Chlapowski on Thu, 07/19/2007 - 10:39am.
Sam isn't making any plans on whether he will run for reelection or some other office until later in September. » reply
Agenda?Submitted by Jeff Ong on Tue, 07/24/2007 - 10:56am.
Is there a particular agenda for these meetings? While I recognize that it's an important issue, I wasn't too personally interested by the focus of the last round, "how do we fund the road maintenance backlog." I'm much more interested in livability and alternative transportation issues, and it seemed those were pretty much brushed aside last time in favor of arterial maintenance. » reply
When Might Sam Set PrioritiesSubmitted by lw on Wed, 08/15/2007 - 12:55pm.
I have yet to hear a response from Sam after all the bogging, townhalls, media attention that has requested setting spending priorities and not having additional taxes as the alternative to addressing the "infrastucture chaos". The next series of townhalls should respond to that concern that monies are there, just not properly spent in direct portion to the percentage of usage by all the modes of transportation. » reply
At the townhalls Sam discusses this...Submitted by Roland Chlapowski on Wed, 08/15/2007 - 4:28pm.
Sam talks of exactly how PDOT's budget is broken down, where the money comes from, what gets spent where, what money is discretionary and subject to reprioritization, and which money we can't be reallocated because of state laws. For instance, all gas tax revenue MUST be spent on roads and ROW maintenance. System Development Charges MUST be spent on capacity enhancements. Streetcar money comes from property owners and urban renewal dollars, which cannot be spent for maintenance. These are just a few examples. Please attend the townhalls and you can ask any more questions you have. The short of it is, though, is that PDOT has been cutting its budget every year for the past 7-8 years, and its annual budget is $12 million a year less now than it was 9 years ago, and this doesn't account for the 70% inflation for transportation costs that has taken place over the last 13 years, either. We have had to prioritize and cut non-priority programs for some time now. A couple examples of the result of this: We don't care for trees any more or prune them, even if they are blocking streetlights. If a car crashes into and knocks over a streetlight, we do not replace it, because we cut that budget, too. We are cleaning the streets less, charging people for leaf removal, and a whole host of other things that you can learn more about if you come to a townhall or give me an email. rchlapowski@ci.portland.or.us » reply
Portlanders are being PlayedSubmitted by Terry Parker on Thu, 08/16/2007 - 3:01pm.
To Quote Amand Fritz from her site referring to funding for the Eastside Streetcar: : “The rest of the City outside of the Urban Renewal Areas will pay at least $6 million in money from the Transportation Systems Development Charges fund…It represents an extra subsidy paid by Portlanders outside of the URAs, in addition to the annual property tax assessments citizens at large pay for Downtown Waterfront and the Convention Center URAs…Doing the Eastside Streetcar means bringing in $99 million in outside money, but it also means not doing $27 million of other projects within the Urban Renewal Areas and $6 million in transportation improvements in the rest of the city.” Since bus service will be replaced by snail rail that not only slows down transit service through the corridor with no real capacity augmentation, but also creates more traffic congestion, reduces motor vehicle capacity and impedes freight mobility by gumming up the flow on the high traffic volume streets the snail rail route traverses; using $6 million from the Transportation Systems Development Charges fund can hardly be considered a capacity enhancement. The possibility also exists with the right judge and the right lawyer, a suit could be won against the City for using these funds to build this full sized Lionel train layout instead of using the dollars for actual capacity improvements on City streets. Additionally, the proposed special incentive one dollar streetcar fare that does not even equal TriMet’s standard fare only demonstrates the ridership projections are low and not supportive of even the operational costs of this snail rail operation. At the very least, a streetcar project should be financially self-sustainable paid for by users through the farebox. Using the Transportation Systems Development Charges Fund to subsidize the construction of a dysfunctional folly trolley instead of real capacity improvements gives Sam’s Town Hall requests for additional taxes nothing more than the appearance of a shrouded flim-flam con job to further pick the pockets of Portlanders. » reply
Roland: Streetcar moneySubmitted by jim karlock on Fri, 08/17/2007 - 11:45am.
Roland: Streetcar money comes from property owners and urban renewal dollars, which cannot be spent for maintenance. Thanks » reply
Another Shell GameSubmitted by Terry Parker on Fri, 08/17/2007 - 4:59pm.
PDOT identifies building sidewalks where they do not exist as capacity enhancements. The $6 million being appropriated from the Systems Development Charges Fund is money that could be used City wide for new sidewalk construction and roadway capacity improvements, including adding to the capacity of intersections to make them safer. Sam’s money request is for both maintenance and safety improvements probably will include dollars for new sidewalk construction and intersection capacity improvements. Therefore any new tax would be back filling existing funding that is being siphoned off to finance the streetcar. Roland is playing a shell game when it comes to his comments about funding the streetcar. Portlanders are being played. » reply
maybe we're being playedSubmitted by Paul Cone on Mon, 08/20/2007 - 8:17am.
But we're in the majority. Terry and JK, the misinformation and whining you guys always put forth on this site is getting REALLY old. » reply
Can I assume from you adSubmitted by jim karlock on Mon, 08/20/2007 - 11:13pm.
Can I assume from you ad hominem against me that you are unable to find any errors on my web site and that is why you attack me instead of attacking my message? Please either prove misinformation coming from me or quit the accusations. Thanks » reply
http://www.debunkingportland.Submitted by David Dean on Tue, 08/21/2007 - 7:48am.
http://www.debunkingportland.com/Calming/Accident/Accident.htm » reply
What is your point? That isSubmitted by jim karlock on Tue, 08/21/2007 - 12:22pm.
What is your point? BTW, did you know that devices like that kill more people by delaying emergancy vehicles than they save by slowing traffic? See secondsCount.org Thanks » reply
Uhhhhhhh.....It alsoSubmitted by A Legal Driver on Tue, 08/21/2007 - 2:47pm.
Uhhhhhhh.....It also wouldn't have happened if the driver had obeyed the law; a simple, clearly marked, and obvious one at that. I do however, like how you attempt to rationalize a driver's illegal behavior by saying "such an action probably seemed safe." It's people like you, advocating for illegal driving habits, that gives a bad impression of car drivers in this town. PS have you ever driven a car before? Turning left around a traffic circle isn't "difficult" as you say. And if it is, you probably shouldn't be driving. » reply
A Legal DriverSubmitted by jim karlock on Wed, 08/22/2007 - 12:12am.
A Legal Driver Uhhhhhhh.....It also wouldn't have happened if the driver had obeyed the law; a simple, clearly marked, and obvious one at that. I am constantly amazed by how little knowledge planners have of basic safe design: A Legal Driver I do however, like how you attempt to rationalize a driver's illegal behavior by saying "such an action probably seemed safe." A Legal Driver It's people like you, advocating for illegal driving habits, that gives a bad impression of car drivers in this town. A Legal Driver PS have you ever driven a car before? Turning left around a traffic circle isn't "difficult" as you say. And if it is, you probably shouldn't be driving. BTW how does a fire truck do that turn while rushing to your house to save it from a fire? Or to save you from a heart attack? See SecondsCount.org Thanks » reply
My experience has been thatSubmitted by Ivy on Thu, 08/23/2007 - 9:18am.
My experience has been that street connectivity and permeability reduces crime, not increases it. It's what every university teaches you in their planning courses, and for good reason. Try getting attacked on a through street. Now try getting attacked in a dead-end cul-de-sac. Tell me which street it's easier to flee your attacker from. As a girl who was attacked two years ago by a man at about six in the evening in a dead-end cul-de-sac, I can tell you which type of city planning I'd have prefered that January night. And the dead-end street I was on that enabled him to corner me was not it. » reply
No Public Majority ExistsSubmitted by Terry Parker on Wed, 08/22/2007 - 3:29pm.
Paul, If you read my 8/16 post, you would have realized the $6 million I was talking about was identified on the website blog of Amanda Fritz who is a respected former candidate for City Council and serves on one or more City citizen committees. Money in the Systems Development Charges Fund is collected from development projects throughout the City and can be used for increasing transport capacity throughout the City. It is not Urban Renewal Money. Any use of the Systems Development Charges Fund to pay for the streetcar is a take-a-way from other neighborhoods in Portland. Sam’s request for more money to fund PDOT would then back fill some of these funds. Therefore, Sam and Roland are playing a cover up shell game to finance snail rail. Furthermore, if anybody is spreading misinformation, it is yourself. What you claim is a majority are really just the vocal groupies that rally to the support of the streetcar and often post both here and on Portland Transport. The only way to clarify a true “majority” is to have a vote of the people, up or down, for or against any streetcar proposal. » reply
What's really getting old isSubmitted by Rebecca on Tue, 08/21/2007 - 6:34am.
What's really getting old is the misrepresentation of Roland, you are blatantly wrong about how UR can be spent. I am certain you and Sam know it. You also know that Urban Renewal dollars have been and can be spent on anything labeled "blight". And since anything can be labeled "blight" an abundance of maintenance within the 12,000 acres of UR districts could be paid for with UR dollars. Furthermore, when a desired target of improvement is found to be outside an UR district the city has simply expanded the district to include the target. You may have been lying about UR for so long you think it is and acceptable means of policy making and funding your streetcars etc. but it is wrong. The lack of any constraints on the spending of Urban Renewal dollars, as evidenced by the many it has been spent, makes your claims of limitations very insulting. Clean up your act, stop misleading the public and quit fabricating reports to get funding. It's the same as stealing. » reply
The FactsSubmitted by Roland Chlapowski on Tue, 08/21/2007 - 12:15pm.
The fact is that you cannot use Urban Renewal money for basic road maintenance. You CAN use it for major capital improvement projects, which would include building streets from scratch and major streetscape projects. And this has been done in many URA neighborhoods. This type of capital improvement is fundamentally different from regular street maintenance which you CANNOT LEGALLY FUND WITH URA money. That's just the fact. For instance, I tried to use URA money from the Mississippi neighborhood (they WANTED to spend it on the following program) for the installation of a series of new crosswalks in the area and was told NO by our financial folks because it is not considered hefty enough of a project to be considered a capital improvement. I also had asked if we could amortize the maintenance costs to get that from URA money. Again, I was told no, you can only use URA money for MAJOR improvements in the right of way. I don't know what else to tell you... except that URA money can only be used for MAJOR road redesigns and overhauls but not regular maintenance. » reply
You can state facts, but howSubmitted by Steve on Tue, 08/21/2007 - 7:08pm.
You can state facts, but how about this? Every time you set up a URA, there is that much less property tax to fix roads, schools, sewers and police. So you play a pretty good shell game by dedicating this money to your pet projects and then cry poverty and say you need a new tax to pay for things you should have been doing all along. Goodness, when are you going to see you are like the guy who takes every penny to buy a Porsche and then can't afford to maintain it? Except the Porsche guy can't raise taxes. So when Mr Admas visits Mr Bluemnhauer to ask for trolley money instead of moeny to fix roads or sewers please don't be so proud. THen he has the gall to blame Mr Bush (I am not a fan of his either) even though Bush never vetoed a spending bill and surprise we have plenty of money for light rail from him. You chose this future for Portland. » reply
No...Submitted by Roland Chlapowski on Wed, 08/22/2007 - 8:17am.
You are conflating all tax revenues, which makes sense in as much as you are paying all the taxes. But as for where those tax dollars go, each revenue source has a specific place where it can and can't go. You can call it a shell game, but the fact is that some money can be used for some things but not others. And some sources of money are easier to raise than others. "Every time you set up a URA, there is that much less property tax to fix roads, schools, sewers and police." NO- Leaving aside the fact URA's can stimulate development and increase property tax revenue over the long term, this is just not true. Two things in particular that should be clear: 1. Property tax is not used fund roads - period. Roads are paid for via gas taxes, some parking meter revenue, and state/federal grants. NOT property taxes. As for a question of priorities, you are right on some level. For decades, the federal government has funded big splashy new projects as opposed to maintenance. But even in this case, the feds focus the vast majority of their money on the federal highway system. The federal government has not paid for local road maintenance and improvement since Reagan slashed HUD (housing and Urban Development) funds in the early 80's. Cities in Oregon depend by-and-large on the state gas tax for all of their maintenance funding. Sam took 10-15 trips down to Salem this past year to lobby legislators for an increase in the gas tax. Not only was he not successful (the state legislature has been loathe to raise the gas tax for nearly 15 years), but what was on the table was at most a 2 or 3-cent-per-gallon increase, which would not even come close to covering our needs in Portland. For every dollar someone in the Portland region, only about 46 cents of it returns for projects in the area- this includes state, county, and local projects. With the funding allocation formula (which will very likely not get changed), to secure the necessary funding to address Portland's maintenance backlog over the next 10 years, it would take more like 20 or 30 cents more a gallon, not even close to 2 or 3 cents a gallon being considered by the legislature. We in Portland would actually get significantly more bang for our buck with a local vs. a state gas tax. In any case, to say that it is government inefficiency or "wrong priorities" that has caused the chronic, nation-wide underinvestment that we'ves seen in our transportation infrastructure, especially when there has been roughly 70% cost inflation for transportation projects over the last 15 years and coupled with the fact that we are living in a state with a capped property tax, no sales tax, and a gas tax that has been static for the last 15 years - is just folly or wishful thinking. You can't get something for nothing, despite what the conservatives have been telling people for the past few decades. When you don't accept that living in civilization entails a cost (e.g. taxes), what you get is deficits that our grandchildren will be burdened with for decades as well as a crumbling public infrastructure caused by underinvestment in the basics of our society's and economy's wellbeing. » reply
You don't know what else toSubmitted by Rebecca on Tue, 08/21/2007 - 5:28pm.
You don't know what else to tell me? The fact is the very streets you are about to rip up for streetcars could be ripped up for new streets sidewalks and streetscapes and without streetcars, thereby negating the need for maintenance on those same streets. I never said you could use UR form potholes or minor resurfacing. Stop responding to what I DIDN'T say. You can spend UR for rebuilding streets inside any of the UR district's 12000 acres and if you need to expand any district to include more of a street do so. Above all stop telling people you can't use UR to make capital improvements to streets unless you include streetcars. You are not telling the truth. And stop feeding the public those bogus reports on development and tax revenue Streetcars spur. Besides the perfectly suitable use of UR to rebuild streets other UR monies can be used for all sorts of things as is done all the time. Only when you DON'T want to do something and want to spend the money in a particular way do your spending restrictions come into play. » reply
geesh.Submitted by Roland Chlapowski on Wed, 08/22/2007 - 8:21am.
"Above all stop telling people you can't use UR to make capital improvements to streets unless you include streetcars. You are not telling the truth." I never said that. "Stop responding to what I DIDN'T say." Ditto. » reply
Snail RailSubmitted by Nick theoldurbanist on Wed, 08/22/2007 - 11:37am.
So I see we are going to have another snail rail trolley, operating at horsecar speeds, to spur development in the Central Eastside. The only trouble is that this is a complete myth in Portland. But it seems that a lot of developers here in Portland have been snowed. I understand that it was the $665,000,000 in tax breaks and subsidies that leveraged the billions of development in the Pearl, not the $57,000,000 streetcar line. Look at the condos to be built at 2121 Belmont--123 units, I understand. Now this is far from any streetcar line, so please explain to me why developers having been building on Belmont, Hawthorne, and Divsion. And all of the regeneration of neighborhhods going on in North Portland, far away from any rail line (e.g., Mississippi). Roland, I repeat my question from a previous post: How many hobbyist railfans, covert and overt, have infiltrated you organization? I know first hand about this syndrome, as I was in the railfan hobby for 15+ years. Is this part of the reason for the incessant pushing of rail-only transit projects here in Portland? Nick Non-Driver and Heavy Trimet User » reply
RE: maybe we're being playedSubmitted by Paul Cone on Thu, 08/23/2007 - 9:35am.
Jim, I won't bother to waste the space debunking you and Terry because it's already done. Why don't you come up with a new argument instead of just repeating the same old ones. And if you don't like what your city council rep is doing, then run for office. And PLEASE QUIT WHINING! Paul » reply
RE: No Public Majority ExistsSubmitted by Paul Cone on Thu, 08/23/2007 - 10:13am.
Terry, Sam was elected by more than "vocal groupies": 2004 General Election Results Comments like yours don't win over anyone if they're baseless and plain wrong. Paul » reply
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