Parking benefit program: the conversation has just begun.By Sam Adams
Last Tuesday afternoon, October 3, I met with over 80 Hawthorne mostly business owners, property owners and a few neighborhood residents. We met at the Mennonite church at SE 35th and Main. The assembled group voted to continue participation in our studies underway of on-street parking demand and an assessment of the economic health of the Hawthorne, Division/Clinton and Belmont business districts. I called for the meeting to further discuss the Neighborhood Benefit Parking Program Study and its companion Neighborhood Business District Conditions Study project. If you travel along Hawthorne you can see many store window signs indicating opposition to installing on-street parking meters. The same sentiment was shared by most of those in attendance at the meeting. I understand this initial anti-parking meter reaction. It was my first reaction, as well. Because we are only starting our studies, I do not know if installing on-street parking meters is what is best for Hawthorne or any other Portland neighborhood. But I am very worried about the future of Portland's fantastic neighborhood business districts. I think we should look at all ideas to support them, even if they are counter-intuitive and controversial ones like adding-on-street park meters. In completing our studies, we will take our time and be very public about our work. You are welcome to sit in on the Community Advisory Committee meetings and any other gathering on this issue. Just send your name and email address to Shoshanah Oppenhiem. Attached you will find my answers to frequently asked questions about Neighborhood Benefit Parking Program Study and its companion Neighborhood Business District Conditions Study project. Feel free to provide us more comments and questions below.
Posted Tue, 10/10/2006 - 1:31pm.
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Mr Adams - I read thru theSubmitted by Steve on Thu, 10/12/2006 - 5:19am.
Mr Adams - I read thru the questions and I did not see one that could be construed as saying, "we need more parking meters". With all of the other things the city needs (like potholes filled) why is forcing something on people when they don't want it so important? I guess you haven't made a real clear argument besides a theory about parking "turnover." Most people's assumption is this is just about revenue generation for the CoP. I mean downtown is dying as a shopping environment and it has the most tightly regulated parking in town. Maybe you should observe better the effects. » reply
Uh, yeaSubmitted by mmmarvel on Thu, 10/12/2006 - 5:54am.
"If you travel along Hawthorne you can see many store window signs indicating opposition to installing on-street parking meters. The same sentiment was shared by most of those in attendance at the meeting." But no matter - we shall continue forward with this idea that the vast majority hate. Isn't it sort of like - The beatings will continue until the moral improves. Again, I truly believe that no matter what, COP will put meters in, remember, any study and statistics can be spun to show pretty much what you want. Second, I really wish the time, money and effort were being spent addressing the problems that are here and now instead of doing 'predictions'. Huge part of the problem is city hall's high density obsession, but never let facts get in the way of fantasy. » reply
Meters discourage visitors and shoppersSubmitted by Michael on Thu, 10/12/2006 - 7:05am.
Meter enforcement policy is irrationally strict. This can be a negative factor in the usability of a metered zone. For example, when on a quick shopping trip near PSU on a Saturday, I mistakenly put my meter sticker on the wrong window. I recieved a $24 ticket for this violation. It was not a case of the sticker not being seen as the ticket said it was on the wrong window. It is nuts that this was not a warning. It is also a reason I rarely use a car downtown for anything. » reply
Hawthorne really could use fewer carsSubmitted by Michael on Thu, 10/12/2006 - 7:31am.
This is not exactly related, but Hawthorne has way too much traffic. People zooming by in cars, in difficult traffic, are not going to take in the view of the many shops. The four narrow lanes of traffic make parking difficult. People not skilled in parallel parking are not going to even bother trying. If business owners want a pleasant shopping neighborhood, this ain't it. Foot traffic is the life of Hawthorne. Unfortunately, the sidewalks are quite narrow for the amount of pedestrians using them. They are further crowded by bicycles whose riders are legitimately fearful of sharing the street. The sidewalks are so narrow that the needed planting of many more street trees is nearly impossible. They are so narrow that I have seen pedestrians take to using the street side of the parked cars, much to their great danger. There is total failure of the street to accommodate cyclists. I will not even try to enumerate the many issues riding a bike to a business on Hawthorne entails. There is an unfortunate irony in that many of the shoppers and neighbors are cyclists, too. There must be a way to improve the quality of the Hawthorne experience that does no harm to business and that does not involve jamming more traffic onto it. Other cities, and other Portland neighborhoods, seem to have managed similar districts with more imaginative and functional means than we have attempted on Hawthorne. » reply
Parking on HawthroneSubmitted by TAMARA MARSHALL on Sun, 10/15/2006 - 11:02pm.
I live right off of the Hawthorne Blvd. and if there are going to be meters on Hawthrone I would like to know how you plan on keeping all the cars out of my driveway and from parking in the residential parts of our neighborhood. Will us residents be gettting parking permits to park in front of our own homes. Which we pay at least $3,000 a yr in property taxes as a side note. I would like to hear a comment from Sam Adams. » reply
TAMARA MARSHALL Will usSubmitted by jim karlock on Sun, 10/15/2006 - 11:43pm.
TAMARA MARSHALL Will us residents be gettting parking permits to park in front of our own homes. Thanks » reply
I never had to pay forSubmitted by Jesse Beason on Mon, 10/16/2006 - 8:06am.
I never had to pay for permits while living in NW. » reply
I supportSubmitted by I Support on Mon, 10/16/2006 - 3:07am.
I support meters on Hawthorne for two reasons. 1. The current business association has failed to deal with issues like litter and pan handlers. With the money from the meters going to the district they would have the money needed to deal with these issues. 2. People are already parking off of Hawthorne and in the neighborhoods. I already can't park in front of my house. Maybe a system in place could help deal with the issue instead of wishing that the good old days of 1980 on Hawthorne would return. » reply
no parking meters, or permits!Submitted by heather on Mon, 10/16/2006 - 10:26pm.
i am absolutely against any parking meters, or permits on hawthorne, belmont or clinton...this is not an area to "charge people" this are is an area that we prefer to keep free and clear of restrictions! there is no reason to mess with this area, the business's, the families...the visitors DO NOT WANT meters or permits...so do not force them upon us. that is obvious by every single sign that is opposed to this on hawthorne,... go somewhere else and pimp out your pay to play motto!!! » reply
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JK:Sam, be sure to study a
JK:Sam, be sure to study a simple time limit of 1 hr, 2 hr, etc., with proper enforcement.
Frankly, if I have to pay the city to park on the store’s property (the street in front of a store is owned by the store’s land owner), then I will go elsewhere. I cannot recall the last time I paid to park except for city business.
To me this appears to be just another small step designed to increase the cost of driving in an attempt to force low income people out of their cars. (The rich will always have private transport, be it private rail cars in the 1800's or limos today (like Katz’ cop driven car.))
Thanks
JK